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Post by dvg on Nov 7, 2018 19:44:31 GMT
Has anyone tried growing this ant fern, Lecanopteris sinuosa, from spores, before?
Recently received some fresh spores and am thinking of taking a go at these.
Will take some pics of the spores and update the progress of these ferns once they begin to show some green growth.
Cheers,
dvg
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Post by corky on Nov 7, 2018 22:03:00 GMT
I'll be interested to see the progress, I grow l.sinuosa and it has had spore bearing fronds but none have ever accidentally grown, are you going to sow in a clear container with a lid? I've been thinking of giving it a go myself
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Post by dvg on Nov 7, 2018 22:18:57 GMT
Hi Corky,
These are supposed to be easy to grow out from spores.
Currently, have some peat cooling down from being heated up to steamy in a microwave oven.
The peat is heated up to kill any random fern spores that naturally occur in peat moss.
Once cool, a layer of the microwaved peat, say an inch or so, will be placed on top of some well draining media, something like half peat/half sand or perlite.
Then the pots will be sealed away in a ziplock bag under fairly bright light in the basement, until new green growth occurs.
The growing ant ferns can be kept in the bags or placed under a propagation dome, until the ferns are big enough to be separated out into pots of their own.
These ferns have shallow root systems and their rhizomes spread outward on top of the media surface.
Germination of spores is supposedly very good and the ferns are very easy to keep in cultivation.
Will take some pics later and post them here.
Cheers,
dvg
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Post by corky on Nov 7, 2018 22:49:18 GMT
Yes it seems fairly easy to grow ,it has a tendency to grow out of its pot , your method is similar to what I was planning, microwaved peat and I was going to use clear takeaway tubs under a Flo lights, do you have any idea on temperature for the spores to germinate?
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Post by dvg on Nov 7, 2018 23:07:10 GMT
These ferns are native to SE Asia, so they can tolerate the warmer temps.
In your clear containers under fluorescent lights, they should be humid and happy.
The temps in our basement won't be getting too much warmer than 24C when the lights are on.
If your ant fern is happy in your home, the spores should be too.
dvg
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Post by dvg on Nov 8, 2018 0:14:42 GMT
The spores are now sown in two 5" pots inside ziplock bags, beside some fluorescent lights, but not directly underneath them. The sender of the spores said that they start well in temps from 22C to 25C. Should begin to see some green in the pots in a few week's time. Will post pics when that progress is spotted. Here is a link on growing out Lecanopteris from spores. myrmecodia.invisionzone.com/topic/191-lecanopteris-from-spores/dvg
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Post by dvg on Nov 16, 2018 0:38:37 GMT
Here is a pic of some of those Lecanopteris sinuosa spores that were sown, next to a couple kernels of short grain brown rice. And here is a closer look at the spores themselves, or at least what was sown. The spores were spread over the surfaces of two 5" pots and are now sealed in ziplock bags. Will update in two or three weeks when the gametophyte stage or the prothallus stages are reached. Still new to and learning the terminology with regards to ferns, so feel free to correct me where i've erred. dvg
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Post by corky on Nov 16, 2018 10:20:55 GMT
Ferns have a very interesting life cycle ,I was doing some reading myself and trying to get my head around the terminology, will follow this with interest🤓
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Post by dvg on Nov 16, 2018 18:32:55 GMT
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Post by dvg on Nov 30, 2018 20:15:54 GMT
Was looking to see if any spores had germinated into gametophytes.
Checked a couple days back and yesterday too, but wasn't able to detect anything germinating on the damp peat surfaces of the two ziplocked pots.
That changed today, when a spore that had germinated into a gametophyte was spotted in one pot, through the condensation on its clear plastic enclosure...
...and with the help of a pair of magnifying lenses.
The gametophyte was a dull, darker green in color and trickier to spot against the wet dark peat background.
Was told that the spores could germinate in 3 to 4 weeks time, so hopefully will spot more sprouts showing up soon.
dvg
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Post by dvg on Dec 15, 2018 20:40:14 GMT
Had another peek at the ant fern spore pots and have spotted at least nine sprouts in the pot that last had one.
The other pot had no visible sprouts and looked to be drier than the sprouted pot.
Added more moisture to that pot and now it has one visible sprout.
Whereas before the initial gametophytes looked like two circles slightly overlapping one another they now remind me of a lime green colored globular shaped cactus seedling.
Keeping the humidity at the correct levels in the bags seems to be a bit of a balancing act.
Humidity has to be high enough to encourage the spores to sprout, but not so wet so as to encourage green algae growth on the pot's surface.
The pot with one ant fern sprout has hardly any algae growth, whilst the more sprouted pot has a few small green algal patches, that will be monitored to see how quick they are to spread out.
Having never grown any ferns out from the spore stage before, this process has been very interesting.
And because these are grown in a sealed bag/enclosure, they are pretty much maintenence free, save for the odd misting when the pots look dry or when some premptive action is required to counteract some green baddies that show up.
dvg
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Post by corky on Apr 12, 2019 22:22:52 GMT
Any updates on these , cheers
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Post by dvg on Apr 15, 2019 20:12:21 GMT
They seem to be coming along fine, still growing in their ziplocked bags.
There are some adult ant ferns, still small, but making inverted tear-shaped , lime-colored leaves.
Have been opening the bags to take pics, taking pics of the developments each month, for the past few months.
Haven't done any fertilizing yet, but might try some soon.
Will try to get some pics posted.
The technique does seem to work well, and might be used successfully for any number of fern spores.
dvg
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Post by corky on Apr 16, 2019 12:12:37 GMT
Look forward to seeing the pics when you get the chance,I have a couple of fern species growing from spores, I'll hopefully be making a thread about them if all goes to plan
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Post by dvg on Apr 16, 2019 21:50:03 GMT
Looking forward to seeing your results as well.
Inside the sealed bags or in the take-out containers, the young ferns are pretty much maintenence free.
dvg
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